OASIS /BILLING QUESTION

This patient had an episode dates ranging 1/21/17-3/21/17. The nurse did a Recert visit on 3/19/17 and then was unable to see patient again due to hospitalization on 3/23/17. New Recert episode dates are 3/22/17-5/20/17. So basically since Recert visit was completed a new Recert episode opened and patient was hospitalized before any further visits could be done. What would be the best way to handle this situation:
1. Put hospital hold in new Recert episode for 3/22 and resume patient on 3/24 or
2. Discharge remove Recert and put a DC instead and open new episode for resumption on 3/24?
3. Plot non billable discharge for last date of episode and open new episode for the ROC date?

Is it true you cant make ROC your first billable visit? So option one is out? However CMS does not want us to DC and do SOC, right?

Any link related to this situation from CMS will be appreciated. Thank you

Comments

  • Discharge the patient at end of previous cert period due to not being seen during new cert period of 3/22/17 - 5/20/17 and patient would be a new referral for new admit when discharged from the hospital.



    Vicki L. Betts, RN, HCS-D ICD-10, HCS-O
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  • If the patient receive a recertification followed by a qualifying inpatient admission although no visits made in the new episode prior to inpatient admission:
    The HHA will not know if the assessment is a SOC or ROC until the HHRG is calculated. If the HHRG score is exactly the same and the recertification HHRG, the care is considered continuous. If the HHRG score is not exactly the same as the recertification HHRG, the care is not considered continuous and the agency must complete an internal agency discharge followed by new SOC. See Oasis Answers 2017 pg 650.

    Thank you,

    Rebecca Flores, RN, BSN, COS-C
    Home Health Clinical Mentor
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  • edited May 2017
    The answer is "It depends on your P&P, whether you expect them to return,
    and their status when they return." This is one of the scenarios that is
    handled in a FAQ. It was updated in Nov 2016 (previously in 2010) and you
    can find it at:
    http://www.oasisanswers.com/downloads/oasisconsiderationsforpps_11.02.07.pdf

    I HIGHLY recommend EVERYONE print this out and keep it handy till you learn
    it because it clears up several tricky OASIS timing questions.

    It is a bit confusing, but here it is:

    11. Patient receives a recertification assessment during days 56-60, and
    then experiences a qualifying inpatient admission in the new episode. o No
    visits made in the new episode prior to inpatient admission.

    Note that there is a change from the 2010 version. It used to say that
    transfer without discharge was preferred. I am curious why it no longer
    says that.

    Answer:
    at recertification: (M0100) RFA 4. At (M0826) enter number of therapy
    visits indicated for the subsequent 60- day episode, or enter 000 if no
    therapy visits indicated.

    at admission to hospital: Transfer with/without HHA discharge (M0100) RFA 6
    or 7
    If RFA 7 was completed, a new Start of Care (M0100) RFA 1 is completed upon
    patient’s return home.

    If RFA 6 was completed, a SOC/ROC comprehensive assessment is completed.
    (The HHA will not know if it is a SOC or ROC until the HHRG is calculated).

    If the new HHRG is exactly the same as the recertification HHRG, the care
    is considered continuous. M0100 should be reported as RFA 3 and the
    assessment is a Resumption of Care. (This is an example of when the first
    visit in the new certification period is a ROC visit.)

    If the new HHRG is not exactly the same as the recertification HHRG, the
    care is not considered continuous and the agency must complete an internal
    agency discharge (no D/C OASIS required). M0100 should be reported as RFA 1
    and the assessment is a Start of Care, starting a new episode/certification
    period. New admission paperwork is not necessary, except as required by the
    payer or agency policy.





    Daniel P. Clark, RN
  • edited May 2017
    WHOOPS, I MESSED UP!!!

    My previous response is essentially correct, but i linked to an old
    version. I saw the date ending in '7' and thought it said '2017'. It
    actually said 2007. The link below is from CMS and they still have the
    2010 version. My deepest (and very embarrassed) apologies.

    Please see SCENARIO 12 instead of 11 in my previous response.

    https://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Quality-Initiatives-Patient-Assessment-Instruments/OASIS/Downloads/OASISConsiderationsforPPS.pdf

    You can verify this is the most current version at
    https://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Quality-Initiatives-Patient-Assessment-Instruments/OASIS/OASISPPS.html

    12. Patient receives a recertification assessment during days 56-60, and
    then experiences a qualifying inpatient
    admission in the new episode.No visits made in the new episode prior to
    inpatient admission.

    at recertification: (M0100) RFA 4. At (M2200) enter number of therapy
    visits indicated for the subsequent 60-
    day episode, or enter 000 if no therapy visits indicated.

    at admission to hospital: Transfer with/without HHA discharge (M0100) RFA 6
    or 7, dependent upon plan for patient return to agency or plan for
    discharge. (RFA 6 - Transfer without discharge is RECOMMENDED)
    • If RFA 6 was completed, a SOC/ROC comprehensive assessment is completed.
    (The HHA will not know if it is a SOC or ROC until the HHRG is calculated).
    • If the new HHRG is exactly the same as the recertification HHRG, the care
    is considered
    continuous. M0100 should be reported as RFA 3 and the assessment is a
    Resumption of
    Care.
    (This is an example of when the first visit in the new certification period
    is a ROC visit.)
    • If the new HHRG is not exactly the same as the recertification HHRG, the
    care is not
    considered continuous and the agency must complete an internal agency
    discharge (no
    D/C OASIS required). M0100 should be reported as RFA 1 and the assessment
    is a Start
    of Care, starting a new episode/certification period. New admission
    paperwork is not
    necessary, except as required by the payer or agency policy.
    If RFA 7 was completed, a new Start of Care (M0100) RFA 1 is completed upon
    patient’s return
    home.





    Daniel P. Clark, RN
  • Thank you for your quick reply. So I also checked the CMS website and they have this "Oasis Consideration for Medicare Patients" that discussed different scenarios. It is showing that the last time it was revised was Nov of 2010. I would say it is still current and in effect because it is in their website, a link you can click. Thoughts?
  • I would agree that it would remain in effect until updated... I also, forgot to tell you that you would need to wait until the patient is discharged from hospital to calculate the HHRG to see if the patient's HHRG remains the same and if so, then you can complete the ROC; if not, then you would discharge and would be a new referral for admission. Did you find anything different?
    Thank you...
  • Thank you for the link. When you say SOC/ROC Comprehensive Assessment is it one assessment that includes the SOC and ROC Oasis items together just like when you do Recert and ROC together? Do SOC and ROC have the same Oasis items? I know it used to but not sure as of this time.
  • edited May 2017
    The SOC and ROC are exactly the same OASIS questions. You likely handle
    the visit differently from a clinical perspective, but the M questions are
    identical. I believe that is the reason fro M0100.

    Daniel P. Clark, RN
  • Just to clarify: It looks like that the Nov 2010 version has the thing that states: RFA 6 is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. So it is still there vs the 2007 link you sent?
  • edited May 2017
    RECERT WAS DONE WITHIN 5-DAYS WINDOW.1ST BILLABLE  3/22/17  , UNABLE TO SEE PATIENT, ON 3/22/17 YOU NEED A MISSED VISIT COMPLETED AND SIGN BY PATIENT  CERTIFYING PHYSICIAN FOR HOME HEALTH SERVICES. ON 3/23/17  COMPLETE A TRANSFER  ONLY TO THE HOSPITAL.THEN ON THE DATE AGENCY WAS NOTIFIY OF PATIENT RETURN HOME THEN COMPLETE A ROC.1. MISSED VISIT2. TRANSFER3. ROCIRENE DAVISAHC HHCOKLAHOMA CITY, OK
  • edited May 2017
    Ilia,

    "Transfer without discharge" is recommended in the 2010 version, and the
    relevant scenario is #12.

    The 2007 version did NOT say it was recommended. That scenario was #11.

    I think the intent (of both 2007 and 2010 versions) in your particular
    instance is the same.

    I hope I haven't caused too much confusion.

    Daniel P. Clark, RN
  • Daniel,

    Thanks. It looks like they added that from 2007 to 2010. Appreciate your input.
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