Hairline fracture

Does Hairline fx coded to Stress fx?

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  • edited April 2017
    yes, they are the same thing
  • Wrong. A hairline fracture occurs with trauma and is another description of a non-displaced fracture. A stress fracture occurs occurs spontaneously (like over-use) without a single direct impact trauma or some are pathologic.

    Nancy Wolverton RN, CCM, HCS-D
    Kindred at Home
    Little Rock, Arkansas
    501-508-8526
    Nancy.Wolverton@kindred.com
  • Incorrect. See my email to Amisha

    Nancy Wolverton RN, CCM, HCS-D
    Kindred at Home
    Little Rock, Arkansas
    501-508-8526
    Nancy.Wolverton@kindred.com
  • so Nancy u r saying if pt has hairline fx due to minor fall should that be coded to traumatic fx not stress fx?
  • if u read coding definition under M84.3-stress fx seems to be saying to code hairline fx to this stress fx category.. Doesn't it??
  • Fall with hairline fracture is a traumatic fracture unless otherwise documented per MD

    Nancy Wolverton RN, CCM, HCS-D
    Kindred at Home
    Little Rock, Arkansas
    501-508-8526
    Nancy.Wolverton@kindred.com
  • Maybe so, but if th MD does not state the fracture is due to an underlying disease process, and you have documentation of accident with injury documented, then the hairline fracture is an injury fracture, not a pathologic fracture. You cannot code it as pathologic unless the documentation is present.
    Definition of a hairline fracture:
    A minor fracture in which the bone fragments remain in alignment, appearing on x-ray film as a fine line.

    Can happen in a fall, or with any degree of injury just as well as it can with osteoporosis.

    Nancy Wolverton RN, CCM, HCS-D
    Kindred at Home
    Little Rock, Arkansas
    501-508-8526
    Nancy.Wolverton@kindred.com
  • edited April 2017
    I have to disagree, orthopedics.com defines hairline fractures to also be
    called stress fractures. Reason being- it's due to fatigue caused by
    repeated stress (weight bearing) over time. A traumatic hairline fracture
    is defined as a stress fracture.
  • Repeated stress is not osteoporosis

    Nancy Wolverton RN, CCM, HCS-D
    Kindred at Home
    Little Rock, Arkansas
    501-508-8526
    Nancy.Wolverton@kindred.com
  • M84 category Excludes traumatic fracture. See her note on the cause of the hairline fracture: fall.

    Nancy Wolverton RN, CCM, HCS-D
    Kindred at Home
    Little Rock, Arkansas
    501-508-8526
    Nancy.Wolverton@kindred.com
  • edited April 2017
    Go online and do some research. There are instances where the mere
    definition is enough it does not need to be verified
  • Definition is not the issue here. The code use is.

    Nancy Wolverton RN, CCM, HCS-D
    Kindred at Home
    Little Rock, Arkansas
    501-508-8526
    Nancy.Wolverton@kindred.com
  • Repeated stress on a bone which is osteoporotic , for example, can cause a stress fracture, but so can repeated stress on a bone that can occur on an athletics’ leg bone or foot bone with repeated trauma with a distance runner.
    Again, the code use is the issue

    Nancy Wolverton RN, CCM, HCS-D
    Kindred at Home
    Little Rock, Arkansas
    501-508-8526
    Nancy.Wolverton@kindred.com
  • edited April 2017
    That is a stress fracture code. Stress fracture has been defined as a
    hairline fracture in the medical dictionary- that is a statement of fact.
    There are certain conditions that are defined in medical dictionary that do
    not need to be confirmed by a physician because it is a given by their mere
    definition.
  • Thank u everyone really appreciate everyone feedback.. I coded stress fx based on definition of hairline fx. Pt came to us from different hospital & I do not have any documentation about how it happened other than just S/P fall...
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